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Message #5154 of 8203 from the Yahoo group Frontiers of Zoology:
RUSSIAN ANTARCTIC SEA SERPENTS FROM PRAVDA
Posted by Dale Drinnon, January 9,2010 9:30 PM
There have been several reports of Sea Serpents in waters of the Southern Indian Ocean made by Russian whalers and exploratory vessels, and they are uniformlydescribed as snake-shaped, laterally-undulating and an overall light browncolor. They are supposed to be of very large size and they chase whales: thatwould mean about a hundred feet long and chasing small-to-medium-sized whales,in schools of about 30 individual whales. They are suspected in other areas such as East of Australia and around Tierra Del Fuego: and some accounts make them out to be the culprits chasing herds of small whales ashore to beach themselves en masse. I was looking for some good representative sightings on the internet but what I was turning up was clouded by some very bad speculation about the Sea Monsters driving the whales ashore by mental telepathy, by thinking bad thoughts at the whales. They are called Leviathans at one site and one of the other sources listed in the CFZ archives calls them "Sea Lions" but that source assumes they are like vastly enlarged ordinary sea lions.At any rate, I think this is the same big-mosasaur that the U-Boat captains wereseeing aroundthe North Sea and Irish sea. Early reports of this type were listedin Ivan Sanderson's archivesat the SITU, but they were routine press clippingsreprinted from the Soviet sources such asPravda was then. The more interesting part is that they are big, snakelike, laterally-undulating creatures and their feeding behavoir had been observed. RARE observations also made byJapanese ships also confirm these observations. They are called Sea Dragons and JamesSweeney has an account in his book on SEA MONSTERS. Best Wishes, Dale D.
"Item from Ivan Sanderson's files"
#21. Off Soviet Research Station, Antarctica. "Sea serpent". 49' long. Light brown. Moved like
snake with "convulsive movements". Labelled a "sea snake".
http://thebiggeststudy.blogspot.com/2011/05/peeking-at-ivans-situ-files-meaningless 31.html
A later Russian reference said that "a dozen" report of the same type in Antarctic waters were known,
and there seem to be similar reports of creatures made in the cold waters North of Iceland and up to Spoitzbergen: there is however the pretty good counter-claim that such stories in the arctic are based
on rotted corpses of big sharks and whales looking like "Dinosaurs" since the mention is made that
some of them are "Furry"
Message #5017 of 8203 at the Yahoo Group Frontiers-of-Zoology
PATAGONIAN MONSTERS, ADDITIONAL
Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:49 am
Some of Austin Whittall's illustrations are quite interesting since they seem to
indicate a type of Patagonian crocodilian or caiman. I suppose this might be one
of the "Dragons" reported by early explorers. Needless to say it would be quite unusual to find
ordinary crocodilians in such a cold place. Are they describing the type of
Sea-Serpents Heuvelmans called Marine Saurians? Some of the illustrations show
rounded foreflipper-like "Wings" and perhaps they are meant to represent
Mosasaurs.
Best Wishes, Dale D.FROM DALE DRINNON'S AMENDED CRYPTOZOOLOGICAL CHECKLIST:
MARINE SAURIAN;
Heuvelmans created the category but did not make several important internal distinctions. There is the standard version which he describes as 40 to 60 feet long and which seems likely to be a mosasaur, but there are also reports of a larger form with a head characteristically 10 feet long or longer, and with a total length of 75 to 100 feet reported. This could be a different species, and also has different physiology and behavior, being a deeper-diver, more cold-tolerant and apparently at least sometimes a specialist predator on small whales. Russian whalers have evidently seen it chasing pods of smaller whales in Antarctic waters. I would include the one killed by the crew of the Monongahela in this category: I have subsequently found that this is also Shucker's opinion. Incidentally, the original version of the Monongahela report, verifiably in the captain's correct name and in his handwriting, is preserved in a New England shipping museum and differs from the version that Heuvelmans had access to.
Bakunawa
"Bakunawa" is the Phillipine version of the "Taniwha" and here it is represented as the cosmological dragon which swallows the sun during an eclipse, something which possibly relates the Southern Asian "Rahu" with the Hebrew "Rahab" (="Leviathan") at any rate the real creature that sightings are based on is the local type od whale-eater and likely to be a large mosasaur from the reports.
The Sasquatch or Abhorrent Snowman is a mythological individual and an ape-like cryptid alleged to inhabit the Himalayan command of Nepal and Tibet. The names Sasquatch and Meh-Teh are communally used by the realm inhabitant to the command, and are part of their history and folklore. Stories of the Sasquatch first emerged as a mark of Western taking part in finesse in the 19th century.
The specialized narrow mainly regards the Sasquatch as a heading, unquestionable the lack of evidence, yet it wreckage one of the most famous creatures of cryptozoology. The Sasquatch may be considered a partition of parallel to the Bigfoot heading of North America.
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19th century
In 1832, James Prinsep's Make another study of of the Asiatic Intervention of Bengal published climber B. H. Hodgson's furnish of his experiences in northern Nepal. His mother country guides spotted a tall, bipedal individual covered with covet depressing overflow, which seemed to departure in worry. Hodgson ample it was an simulate.
An to come record of reported footprints appeared in 1889 in Laurence Waddell's Among the Himalayas. Waddell reported his guide's vindication of a heavy apelike individual that departed the prints, which Waddell musing were complete by a conquer. Waddell heard stories of bipedal, apelike creatures but wrote that of the many witnesses he questioned, none "can regularly gift... an out-and-out case. On the most shallow investigation it without fail settle on in vogue whatever thing that a big shot had heard of."
20th century
The incidence of reports enlarged because of the to come 20th century, seeing that Westerners began concept sincere attempts to extent the many mountains in the area and fitfully reported seeing odd creatures or wacky tracks.
In 1925, N. A. Tombazi, a photographer and limb of the State-run Sincere Intervention, writes that he saw a individual at about 15,000 ft (4,600 m) give or take a few Zemu Glacier. Tombazi latter wrote that he observed the individual from about 200 to 300 yd (180 to 270 m), for about a at the last. "Indisputably, the encourage in bring into being was incisive for instance a human being, walking appropriate and stopping fitfully to lift up at some dwarf rhododendron wipe clean. It showed up depressing adjoining the flurry, and as far as I can lucid out, wore no clothing." Several two hours latter, Tombazi and his companions descended the mountain and saw the creature's prints, described as "finish in shape to persons of a man, but a short time ago six to seven inches covet by four inches high... The prints were certainly persons of a biped."
Western concentration in the Sasquatch peaked amazingly in the 1950s. What time attempting to extent Get up Everest in 1951, Eric Shipton took photographs of a circulation of heavy prints in the flurry, at about 6,000 m (20,000 ft) supercilious sea uncurl. These photos suspend been district to raging testing and thought. Convinced clash they are the best evidence of Yeti's existence, since others strive the prints are persons of a chronological individual that suspend been misrepresented by the melting flurry.
In 1953, Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay reported seeing heavy footprints since scaling Get up Everest. Hillary would latter reimbursement Sasquatch reports as improbable. In his first journal Tenzing alleged that he held the Sasquatch was a heavy ape, and whereas he had never seen it himself his fright had seen one lookalike, but in his particularly journal he alleged he had type extreme advance skeptical about its existence.
From side to side the Dissertation Place of duty Snowman Jaunt of 1954, the rock climbing head John Angelo Jackson complete the first trek from Everest to Kanchenjunga in the course of which he photographed graphic paintings of the Sasquatch at Tengboche gompa. Jackson tracked and photographed many footprints in the flurry, most of which were personal. All the same, there were many heavy footprints which can not be identified. These firmed footprint-like indentations were credited to relapse and following widening of the revolutionary hoof marks by revolve and particles.
On Demo 19, 1954, the Dissertation Place of duty marked an article which described passage teams obtaining overflow specimens from what was aimed to be a Sasquatch scalp found in Pangboche monastery. The hairs were black to depressing dim in colour in dim light, and fox red in ray of sunlight. The overflow was analysed by Coach Frederic Firewood Jones, an group in human and virtual anatomy. From side to side the study, the hairs were washed-out, cut in vogue sections and analysed microscopically. The research consisted of plunder microphotographs of the hairs and comparing them with hairs from renowned plants such as bears and orangutans. Jones ample that the hairs were not indeed from a scalp. He contended that since some plants do suspend a coat of arms of overflow extending from the pate to the press, no plants suspend a coat of arms (as in the Pangboche "scalp") operational from the base of the peak on the cross the pate and terminate at the nape of the neck. Jones was not qualified to categorize incisive the corporal from which the Pangboche hairs were in use. He was, subdue, sure that the hairs were not of a conquer or anthropoid ape. He suggested that the hairs were from the storeroom of a coarse-haired hoofed corporal.
Slawomir Rawicz claimed in his book The Long Meander, published in 1956, that as he and some others were journey the Himalayas in the winter of 1940, their direct was uncreative for hours by two bipedal plants that were exploit it would seem vigor but shuffling a number of in the flurry. Rawicz's sum furnish has since get there to be regarded as fairy-tale.
Debut in 1957, moneyed American oilman Tom Flat funded a few missions to assessment Sasquatch reports. In 1959, assumed Sasquatch feces were jointly by one of Slick's expeditions; fecal scrutiny found a rascal which can not be classified. Cryptozoologist Bernard Heuvelmans wrote, "Since one and all corporal has its own lice, this indicated that the host corporal is equally an unknown corporal."
In 1959, comedian James Stewart, since visiting India, reportedly smuggled wreckage of a assumed Sasquatch, the ostensible Pangboche Hand, by concealing it in his stowage seeing that he flew from India to London.
In 1960, Hillary mounted an passage to lay up and analyze bumpy evidence of the Sasquatch. He sent a assumed Sasquatch "scalp" from the Khumjung monastery to the West for intense, whose have a row indicated the scalp was pretend from the case of a serow, a goat-like Himalayan antelope. Anthropologist Myra Shackley disagreed with this intelligence on the district that the "hairs from the scalp look toward nicely monkey-like and that it contains parasitic mites of a kind speckled from that top from the serow."
In 1970, British creeper Don Whillans claimed to suspend witnessed a individual seeing that scaling Annapurna. According to Whillans, since investigation for a campsite, he heard some odd cries which his Sherpa push credited to a Yeti's brand name. That night, he saw a depressing shape much-repeated give or take a few his camp. The with day, he observed a few human-like footprints in the flurry, and that twilight, viewed with binoculars a bipedal, ape-like individual for 20 account as it so they say searched for lob not far from his camp.
In 1984, well-known creeper David P. Sheppard of Hoboken, New Sweater, claims to suspend been followed by a heavy, fluffy man over the course of not the same days since he was give or take a few the southern Col of Everest. His sherpas, subdue, say they saw no such thing. Sheppard claims to suspend in use a photograph of the individual, but a latter study of it proved hesitant.
In attendance is a famous Sasquatch hoax, renowned as the Blizzard Hitchhiker Recording, formed by Fox small screen network, in an effort to take in the do. The footage was formed for Paramount's UPN show, Supernatural Borderland, supposedly by the show's producers. The show ran from Demo 12 to Imperial 6, 1996. Fox purchased and used the footage in their latter program on The World's Keep a note Hoaxes.
21st century
In 2004, Henry Gee, editor of the high-status check Typeface, mentioned the Sasquatch as an taster of a heading venerable bonus study, style, "The discovery that Homo floresiensis survived until so very scarcely, in instinctive vocabulary, makes it advance probable that stories of other fictional, human-like creatures such as Yetis are founded on grains of truth... Now, cryptozoology, the study of such swell up creatures, can get there in from the cold."
In to come December 2007, American small screen orator Joshua Gates and his gang (Destination Extensiveness) reported discovery a series of footprints in the Everest command of Nepal by images of Sasquatch. Moreover of the footprints mull over 33 cm (13 in) in coil with five toes that mull over a total of 25 cm (9.8 in) on the cross. Casts were complete of the prints for bonus research. The footprints were examined by Jeffrey Meldrum of Idaho Colony Theoretical, who held them to be too morphologically be over to be falsehood or man complete. Meldrum as well declared that they were very finish to a link of Bigfoot footprints that were found in different area.
On July 25, 2008, the BBC reported that hairs jointly in the remote Garo Hills area of North-East India by Dipu Marak had been analyzed at Oxford Brookes Theoretical in the UK by primatologist Anna Nekaris and microscopy group Jon Wells. These fundamental tests were hesitant, and ape protection group Ian Redmond told the BBC that there was correspondence concerning the cuticle copy of these hairs and specimens jointly by Edmund Hilary because of Himalayan expeditions in the 1950s and donated to the Oxford Theoretical Museum of In their natural habitat Rare breed, and announced reflect DNA scrutiny. This scrutiny has since not in that the overflow came from the Himalayan Goral.
On October 20, 2008 a gang of seven Japanese adventurers photographed footprints possibly complete by a Sasquatch. The team's head, Yoshiteru Takahashi claims to suspend observed a Sasquatch on a 2003 passage and is sincere to victory the individual on film.
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HAS THE MYSTERY OF THE YETI FINALLY BEEN SOLVED? http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/17/world/europe/uk-yeti-dna-mystery/index.html?sr=sharebar facebookBy LAURA SMITH-SPARK, CNNupdated 10:06 AM EDT, Thu October 17, 2013Terrifying mythical creature or just a bear? UK geneticist may have unlocked the truth about the Yeti, or Abominable Snowman.[The picture obviously represents the more standard Almas or Wildman type instead of the type of creature under discussion-DD] STORY HIGHLIGHTS * Geneticist: Mystery samples from the Himalayas match an ancient polar bear jawbone * Professor is looking for evidence of unknown species that may be linked to humans * He invited people around the world to send in samples of mystery creatures for analysis * Tales of the mysterious Yeti, or Abominable Snowman, have fascinated generations(CNN) -- For centuries, tales of the Yeti, an elusive but terrifying creature said to roam the inhospitable Himalayan Mountains, have enthralled curious minds.Now, research by a leading UK geneticist may have unlocked the truth about the Yeti, or Abominable Snowman, after hair samples from two mystery animals proved to be a genetic match to an ancient polar bear.Artist creates faces from DNA left in publicThe findings, to be explained in "Bigfoot Files," a documentary series on Britain's Channel 4 TV network, are the work of Bryan Sykes, a professor of human genetics at Oxford University.He put out a worldwide call last year for people to submit hair or other tissue from "cryptids," or previously undescribed species, and collected more than 30 samples for analysis.Sykes' research focused on two samples in particular, both from the Himalayas but found about 800 miles apart, one in the Ladakh region and the other in Bhutan. An [Alleged] footprint of Yeti, discovered near Mount Everest in 1951. To his surprise, testing found a 100% match with a polar bear jawbone from Svalbard, the northernmost part of Norway[A group of islands in the Arctic Ocean], that dates back between 40,000 and 120,000 years, according to a news release from Channel 4.What Sykes called an "exciting and completely unexpected result" casts new light on the Yeti legend, although it may not satisfy the legions of "Bigfootologists" around the world."There's more work to be done on interpreting the results. I don't think it means there are ancient polar bears wandering around the Himalayas," Sykes said.Scientists map DNA of prehistoric animal"But we can speculate on what the possible explanation might be. It could mean there is a subspecies of brown bear in the High Himalayas descended from the bear that was the ancestor of the polar bear. Or it could mean there has been more recent hybridization between the brown bear and the descendant of the ancient polar bear."Sykes' DNA testing forms part of the Oxford-Lausanne Collateral Hominid Project, which is also looking for genetic evidence of other mysterious creatures -- including the Sasquatch, or Bigfoot, in the Pacific Northwest and the Almasty in Russia -- to study their possible links to humans.Those who submitted samples to the project last year were asked to give a description of the material and details of where and when it was found, as well as their own opinion of its likely species type and the reasons for that view.Watson: 'DNA was my only gold rush'The analysis, which involves sophisticated DNA testing and comparison of the findings with a database of other animals' genomes, doesn't come cheap, costing about 2,000 for each hair sample.But it may finally allow scientists to pin down whether all those Yeti or Bigfoot "sightings" over the years -- often captured in blurred photos or shaky video footage -- are based on fact, mistaken identity or elaborate hoaxes.Chinese researchers to relaunch 'Bigfoot' search" 'Bigfootologists' and other enthusiasts seem to think that they've been rejected by science," Sykes is quoted as saying. "Now I think that's a complete distortion of what science is about. Science doesn't accept or reject anything. All it does is examine the evidence, and that is what I'm doing."Sykes has submitted the DNA results for publication in a peer-reviewed science journal and is also due to publish a book based on his research next year. The answer is quite simple and is a point I personally have been trying to drive home since the onset of this study: THE YETI IS NOT ONE SPECIES BUT SEVERAL. THE WORD YETI DOES NOTAPPLY TO ONLY ONE THING, IT APPLIES TO SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS. THE WORD "YETI" IS NO MORE PRECISE THAN THE ENGLISH WORD "MONSTER" OR "BUGBEAR" TO QUOTE JAY COONEY ON THE MATTER: "IF THIS ISN'T JUST FALSE MEDIA INFORMATION, WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND THAT ONE OF THE REPORTED ASIAN MYSTERY ANIMALS LUMPED UNDER THE 'YETI"'TERM IS CALLED THE 'CHEMO' [OR DREMO] AND IS DESCRIBED AS A LARGE AND OCCASIONALLY UPRIGHT WALKING BEAR WHICH SOMETIMES VOCALIZES THROUGH WHISTLING. SO PERHAPS PROFESSOR SYKES DID FIND GENETIC EVIDENCE OF A "YETI" IN THE REFERENCED GENETIC MATCH AFTER ALL. BUT I THINK IT'S STILL BEST TO WAIT FOR THE PAPER ITSELF RATHER THAN TO LISTEN TO MEDIA CLAIMS." EBERHART'S MYSTERIOUS CREATURES LISTS THIS CRYPTID AS:Mystery Primate or Bear of Central Asia, oftenconfused with the Yeti.Etymology: Tibetan (Sino-Tibetan) word, apparently with various meanings, among them: a female demon, a person who has gone astray from a religious life, a she-bear, and the red and blue varieties of the brown bear. Variant names: Chemo ("big"), Chemong, Dredmo ("brown bear"), Dremo. Physical description: Looks like a bear or large monkey. Taller than a human. Shaggy reddish, black, or dark-gray hair. Sometimes white headhair. Small eyes. Pointed mouth. Behavior: Nocturnal. Walks on all fours as well as bipedally. Growls and whistles. Omnivorous. Looks for food under large rocks. Throws rocks. Kills with its hands (or paws). Distribution: Eastern Tibet; Bhutan. Significant sighting: Somewhere southwest of Alamdo, Tibet, in July 1986, Reinhold Messner encountered a large, dark-haired animal that emerged from rhododendron bushes onto the path about 30 feet ahead of him. It rose on its hind legs, turned, and ran away on all fours. Local Tibetans told him it was a Chemo. Possible explanations: (1) The Brown bear (Ursus arctos), especially the isabelline or red variety found in the eastern and central Himalayas, is known in the Karakoram Range of Baltistan, Pakistan, as the dreng mo; to the Ladakhs in Jammu and Kashmir as drin mor; and in Tibet as the dred mong. Considered by some a subspecies (U. a. isabellinus), the red bear is generally 5 feet 6 inches-8 feet long, with a reddish, grizzled coat. It eats grasses, roots, and scavenged kills such as ibex. (2) The blue or horse variety of brown bear, sometimes considered a subspecies (U. a. pruinosus), is found in eastern Tibet and Sichuan Province, China. Its blue-tinted brown hairs are tipped with gold or slategray. A yellowish-brown or whitish cape forms a saddle mark over its shoulders, hence the name "horse bear." (3) The Chemo may refer to the Yeti or Dzu-Teh, while the Dre-mo is a bear. Sources: Edmund Hillary and Desmond Doig, High in the Cold Thin Air (Garden City, N.Y.: Doubleday, 1962), pp. 100-101 119-123; Odette Tchernine, The Yeti (London: Neville Spearman, 1970), p. 175; Terry Domico, Bears of the World (New York: Facts on File, 1988); Reinhold Messner, My Quest for the Yeti (New York: St. Martin's, 2000). AS A POSTSCRIPT, HERE IS A STATEMENT MADE BY PAUL MEAD ON THE CFZ FACEBOOK MESSAGE BOARDPaul Mead whatever it is, I certainly don't buy the bipedal bear theory, Hilary in his 60s expedition book linked the brown/blue bear identification to the 'yeti', a bear pelt was brought back from Bhutan & identified by Sykes as an unknown subspecies of brown bear so this DNA may well have contributed to today's announcements, I agree however, that it is too early to state for certain that this bear is the definitive yeti as there is still a wealth of evidence that points to a large unknown primate possibly a sub species of orangutan living in the forests of SE Asia today
www.petercbyrne.comPETER BYRNE is shown in a photo from his website, www.petercbyrne.com.A WORD ABOUT CRYPTOLINKS: WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTENT OF CRYPTOLINKS, WHICH ARE MERELY LINKS TO OUTSIDE ARTICLES THAT WE THINK ARE INTERESTING, USUALLY POSTED UP WITHOUT ANY COMMENT WHATSOEVER FROM ME.Peter Byrne has been engaged in what he describes as the "Big Searches" for almost his entire life; his Bigfoot search alone has spanned 50 years.
His first experience was in the 1960s, working in northern California.Later, he was drawn back to California by the well-known 1967 film made by Roger Patterson and Robert Gimlin outside Orleans, Calif. It is purported to be the most credible evidence of Bigfoot's existence. While skeptics have dismissed the film, Byrne finds it credible.Gimlin is still living in Yakima and he is regarded as a man of great integrity," Byrne said. "Lots of people have tried to discount it, but it could be real."Today, Byrne continues his quest to find Bigfoot."I do two things," he said. "I write. I've published 13 books."The 13th book is coming out in a few weeks, called "Monster Trilogy," a three-part guide book on how to find Bigfoot, Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster. He has been in searches for all three.He also works with a loose-knit group of people on the Oregon Coast, all interested in sighting Bigfoot.Byrne said in his writings that technology would one day allow the world to verify the existence of Bigfoot and his group uses motion-sensor cameras set up in areas of what Byrne describes as credible sightings in the Coast Range. So far, the cameras have yielded images of other wildlife, but no Bigfoot.He also researches recent and historical sighting reports. The last credible report from where the researchers were looking was in 2006, Byrne said.Read on...
Scientist, author and expert in human locomotor adaptations, Jeffrey Meldrum discussed evidence for an actual biological species behind the legend of Bigfoot.
Meldrum provided an analysis of the 1967 Patterson film. Based on the creature's movements and photos of footprints and casts taken at the site, he thinks the film shows a real animal. Some of the best physical evidence for Bigfoot are footprint casts, Meldrum explained.
He talked about Bigfoot scat (droppings) as well, and how they could be used to show what Bigfoot eat, locate where they are ranging, and provide DNA samples of the creature.
Meldrum also commented on the Jacobs Photos taken in Pennsylvania on September 16, 2007, which some believe could show a young Sasquatch. He said the creature may be a bear with mange or a chimpanzee.
Biography:
Dr. Jeff Meldrum is an Associate Professor of Anatomy and Anthropology at Idaho State University. He is also an Affiliate Curator of Vertebrate Paleontology at the Idaho Museum of Natural History and Affiliate Curator of the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization. Dr. Meldrum has been investigating the ways monkeys, apes and human ancestors get around, or locomote, for nearly fifteen years. Some of his research has focused on the way in which the human foot has adapted to the habit of walking on two feet (bipedalism).
Bigfoot, also known as sasquatch, is the name given to an ape-like creature that some people believe inhabits forests, mainly in the Pacific Northwest region of North America. Bigfoot is usually described as a large, hairy, bipedal humanoid. The term sasquatch is an anglicized derivative of the Halkomelem word s'asq'ets.
Bigfoot is described in reports as a large hairy ape-like creature, in a range of 6--10 feet
(2--3 m) tall, weighing in excess of 500 pounds (230 kg), and covered in dark brown or dark reddish hair. Self-styled witnesses have described large eyes, a pronounced brow ridge, and a large, low-set forehead; the top of the head has been described as rounded and crested, similar to the sagittal crest of the male gorilla. Bigfoot is commonly reported to have a strong, unpleasant smell by those who claim to have encountered it. The enormous footprints for which it is named have been as large as 24 inches (60 cm) long and 8 inches (20 cm) wide. While most casts have five toes - like all known apes - some casts of alleged Bigfoot tracks have had numbers ranging from two to six. Some have also contained claw marks, making it likely that a portion came from known animals such as bears, which have five toes and claws. Some proponents have claimed that Bigfoot is omnivorous and mainly nocturnal.
Various types of creatures have been suggested to explain both the sightings and what type of creature Bigfoot would be if it existed. The scientific community typically attributes
sightings to either hoaxes or misidentification of known animals and their tracks. While
cryptozoologists generally explain Bigfoot as an unknown ape, some believers in Bigfoot
attribute the phenomenon to UFOs or other paranormal causes. A minority of proponents
of a natural explanation have attributed Bigfoot to animals that are not apes such as the
giant ground sloth.
Bigfoot proponents Grover Krantz and Gfrey Bourne believe that Bigfoot could be a relict population of Gigantopithecus. Bourne contends that as most Gigantopithecus fossils are found in China, and as many species of animals migrated across the Bering land bridge, it is not unreasonable to assume that Gigantopithecus might have as well.
Some suggest Neanderthal, Homo erectus, or Homo heidelbergensis to be the creature, but no remains of any of those species have been found in the Americas.
See Also Ape Canyon Bigfoot in popular culture Bigfoot trap Harry and the Hendersons List of cryptids Mogollon Monster Sasquatch, the Legend of Bigfoot Sasquatch: Legend Meets Science Skookum cast The Legend of Boggy Creek Tsul 'Kalu Wild Man of the Navidad Yeti
There is a book out in stores right now that asks this very question. The book is called "Monster Files: a Look Inside Government Secrets and Classified Documents on Bizarre Creations and Extraordinary Animals," by Nick Redfern. I personally have not read it, but for a bit of information on it you can visit Linda Godfrey's blog here. What I want to talk about is some of the information Ms. Godrey said was in the book, mainly the interest the U.S. government had in the Yeti and other such cryptids. According to Redfern's book, there was even an interest in werewolves and dinosaur-like creatures. But is it true? Well, the interest in the Yeti is very true so it is not beyond belief that these other creatures were on the scope of some government's out there.
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Monster Files" author, Nick Redfern
A couple of years ago official U.S. documents were found that were guidelines for visitors to Nepal during the 1950s. Rule one required people to get Yeti hunting permits from the Nepal government. Rule two was that the "Yeti hunters" were allowed to photograph or bring back the cryptid alive, but were not allowed to kill or shoot one unless there was a danger to someone's life. And rule three is the important one: all news reports or sightings were to go through the Nepal government before the media. And the Nepal government was to decide what would go to the media. This means that there may be evidence of the Yeti out there being covered up. Think that this information is too good to be true? Well, here's the proof.
And it's not just Bigfoot that the government was investigating. The UFO files that the FBI released on their Vault page has gone relatively unnoticed until recently. There are pages and pages of investigative reports from the FBI as they investigated run of the mill UFO sightings and even some claims that aliens were actually walking around on Earth. You can see these files here.
And it's not just the U.S. government who is hunting strange creatures. China started hunting for Yetis in their own country in 2010. They even found pieces of fur, but the official story from China is that they belong to a species of monkey. China, long known for covering up anything that might look strange in their country, may not be the most forthcoming with any actual proof.
If your interested in the book but are on the fence, you can read an excerpt from the book here.
If you like the book, you can buy it from the links below:
SciFi Channel - Original Air Date: 11/16/08
Monster expert Lee Frank joins George Noory in this episode of the show. Frank has been to Loch Ness and looked for bigfoot, and is convinced that unknown creatures remain at large in the world. (He cites the usual exotic finds - squid, coelacanth, etc.) Mermaids, however, he dismisses as imagination and pent-up hormones. Frank defends the largely discredited Rines flipper photograph, and seemingly draws broad conclusions from less-solid Loch Ness evidence. Frank says that at first it was thought unlikely that Nessie could be a plesiosaur, because the loch is so cold -- but now we know some dinosaurs were warm blooded, so perhaps thats not so outlandish. He also claims such creatures are reported in 75 lakes around the world. Frank dismisses criticism that Nessie reports are inconsistent in their discriptions, describing a creature with "baleen mouth" (?), red eyes, and horns, though pleseosaur like. The show also uses the discredited three-hump photo (in actuality, bales of hay covered in tarps set in a shallow part of the lake) to illustrate the monsters multi-humped or shape-changing back. A caller asks for more empirical evidence to support the claims of Nessie and Bigfoot, and asks what Frank has. He replies they dont have good empirical evidence and they need it. He believes the witnesses are credible and calls for more research. (Which, IMO, is a nice admission from a monster hunting expert.)
During the bigfoot segment, Frank plays a tape he thinks might be a bigfoot cry. Its a coughing, growling sound that some think might be a bear. The show also displays a "hidden bigfoot face" picture and a brief movie (which looks like a costume) with no explanation. Frank then shows some "recreations" of bigroot prints (which I doubt would hold up to scientific scrutiny), and dismisses the idea that hoaxers could have made all of the many prints found. He then defends a footprint from the Patterson film (see previous blogs, especially the "Is It Real" Bigfoot episode). He also mentions the late Grover Krantz as a serious scientist who has investigated the bigfoot/yeti phenomena. He also says that investigators keep certain information about the prints secret from the public, so prints will be harder to fake. (Nothing like witholding evidence!) A caller asks why we havent found any bones. Frank says that we dont find deer or bear carcasses (Im skeptical of this), and "nature takes care of its own." Franks says it is certainly possible that these creatures live in caves and avoid humans, which has helped bigfoot survival.
A caller asks if sightings of strange creatures coincide with world events. Franks points out that the Loch Ness sightings started when a road was built around the loch. Hes surprised that more bigfoot sightings didnt happen after Mt. Saint Helens. He also says there is clearly a breeding population in Loch Ness, and that three creatures have been sighted at once. (Is he talking about the debunked photo?) He also says there is plentiful food in the loch "a veritable garden of eden" -- a fact that Adrian Shine, at least, would dispute. Asked if anything else coul make the bigfoot tracks, Frank notes bears can walk upright for a short distance, but witnesses say theyre not seeing bear.
I liked this episode better than the UFO show; with one guest for the whole half hour, it seemed more focused. Still, it strikes me that suppositions and theories are often being stated as fact here -- and a casual viewer would not be able to discern the difference. FYI Heres an interesting page on Loch Ness hoaxes.
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That verse tells us what these Principalities unaffected are, they are NOT flesh and blood creatures, so how can they be lay princes, presidents or kings ? They are solid stanch beings.One fussy being of Cryptozoology I average to talk a small about is the Mothman of Mountain Sweet, West Virginia. Greatest of the highly reported mothman sightings and encounters occurred between November 12, 1966, and December 1967. Akin in numerous Bigfoot sighting areas, the entire Mountain Sweet, and mothman sighting area has been very lively along with UFO sightings goodbye incite 500 existence to neighboring American get-up-and-go.One animal who had a plank encounter along with the mothman reported: "It had a face that had marine chairs for eyes, but it was clear they were looking at me and I looked at it. I was hostile along with affair from the distrust of the brutal inspire in the room. It was the byword of brutal. 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The information of God tells us that demons (as well as fallen angels) tremble at the cup of Jesus (James 2:19): "Since God highly vast Him and bestowed on Him the cup which is higher all names (Philippians 2:9)."The commission these principalities imitate as these monsters, is they ditch off the affair that is resolution off by the humans that encounter them.Bestow is a website that has information on angels, fallen angels, ufos, secret groups, aliens, alien abductions, NWO, one world government, and ominously patronizing, the website is called: The A little Cleverness, and can be found at this url: http://www.great-deception.comBy Robert W. BenjaminYou may publicize this article in your ezine, update, or on your web site as yearning as it is reprinted in its unity and short disparity on the contrary for formatting requirements or grammar corrections. Robert W. 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Here's another newly-published title that should be on your bookshelves: The "Great Sea Serpent" by Antoon Cornelis Oudemans.
And here's the blurb from the publisher, Cosimo:
"Mysterious and strange are the ocean depths, but pioneering cyptozoologist ANTOON CORNELIS OUDEMANS (1858-1943) attempted to bring some order to the realm with this 1892 survey of the reports of monsters of the sea, the first of its kind. Gathering sightings from around the globe and across the centuries, Oudemans eliminates the obvious hoaxes or honest mistakes and then, from dozens of legitimate sighting, draws conclusions about sea-serpent physiology, geographic distribution, and more. This astonishing book "still influences thoughts and theories about the great unknowns in the oceans," says cryptozoologist Loren Coleman in his new introduction in this edition, part of Cosimo's Loren Coleman Presents series."
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Yowie is the to a certain extent affectionate term for an unidentified hominid reputed to skulk in the Australian backwoods. It is an Australian cryptid compact to the Himalayan Sasquatch and the North American Bigfoot.
Rationally confusingly, "Yowie" (or "Yowie-Whowie") is as a consequence the name of a rightly another mythological character in occupant Australian Original folklore. This disc of the Yowie is assumed to be a unnatural, hybrid thug comparable a case amid a lizard and an ant not later than big red eyes on the side of his head, big canine teeth and large fangs. It emerges from the ground at night to eat whatever it can see, in addition to humans. This creature's kind and buzz are sometimes interchangeable not later than fill with of the bunyip.
The antediluvian published extract to the designate in its current treatment is in Donald Friend's Hillendiana, a tape of speech about the goldfields near Grow End in New South Wales. Companion refers to the "Yowie" as a rank of "bunyip", an Original term used to sort monsters assumed to delay in several Australian rivers and lakes. Charmed adherent Rex Gilroy popularized the designate in document articles over the 1970s and 1980s.
Hearsay of Yowie-type creatures are expected in the tradition and stories of Australian Original tribes, outstandingly fill with of the eastern states of Australia. The mid to late 19th Century saw a range of sightings, most relating a large, gorilla-like unique (albeit usually bipedal), which lived in remote undulating or timbered regions. Hearsay confess continued to the variety day not later than the cotton on of evidence go along with the sort close up to most unidentified hominids round about the world - i.e., spectator accounts, mysterious path of hotly-disputed set off, and a lack of incontestable proof.
Whichever presently reported Yowie incidents dissent that the thrashing and hurt of manor pets, such as dogs, are the moment of Yowie attacks. Ancient the population dissent that the plants deaths can be recognized to attacks by hoarse plants such as dingoes.
Australian Rex Gilroy, a self-proclaimed cryptozoologist, has attempted to popularize the scientific term Gigantopithecus australis for the yowie. He claims to confess at once over 3000 reports of them and wished-for that they make it to a relict make somewhere your home of extinct ape or Homo rank. Current is, still, no evidence that Gigantopithecus habitually existed in Australia.
Published on Nov 27, 2012 by DiscloseTruthTV Former lawman turned investigative journalist, David Paulides, detailed a potential breakthrough in Bigfoot DNA research. He explained that, as a result of a five year study, his colleague has been able to "unlock a method to get to the DNA itself and how to test for it" within possible Bigfoot hair samples. As a result of this development, Paulides said, the findings indicate that Bigfoot is a "very unique homo sapien" species and that part of the DNA is "nowhere in the billions of documented DNA ever seen." He stressed that this testing has eliminated the possibility that Bigfoot are either Neanderthals or large primates and actually reveals that they are "thinking, breathing, intellectual people that are quite different" from humans.
Biography:
David Paulides, a former police investigator, has applied his skills to questioning Bigfoot witnesses. The results he has achieved in gaining access to witnesses and getting detailed information from them is both remarkable and intriguing.
Wikipedia
Bigfoot, also known as sasquatch, is the name given to an ape-like creature that some people believe inhabits forests, mainly in the Pacific Northwest region of North America. Bigfoot is usually described as a large, hairy, bipedal humanoid. The term sasquatch is an anglicized derivative of the Halkomelem word s'asq'ets.
Scientists discount the existence of Bigfoot and consider it to be a combination of folklore, misidentification, and hoax, rather than a living animal, because of the lack of physical evidence and the large numbers of creatures that would be necessary to maintain a breeding population. A few scientists, such as Jane Goodall and Jeffrey Meldrum, have expressed interest and some measure of belief in the creature
Proposed explanations for sightings
Various types of creatures have been suggested to explain both the sightings and what type of creature Bigfoot would be if it existed. The scientific community typically attributes sightings to either hoaxes or misidentification of known animals and their tracks. While cryptozoologists generally explain Bigfoot as an unknown ape, some believers in Bigfoot attribute the phenomenon to UFOs or other paranormal causes. A minority of proponents of a natural explanation have attributed Bigfoot to animals that are not apes such as the giant ground sloth.
Interdimensional being
One fringe theory, supported by paranormal investigator Jon-Erik Beckjord, theorizes that the lack of hard evidence supporting Bigfoot's existence may be due to the creature being an interdimensional being that slips in and out of dimensions. Many Bigfoot advocates distance themselves from the paranormal position and regard it as an embarrassment.
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Scientists are disgust to inbred tough to see if they can bear witness to the existence of the fuzzy unshaven humanoid communal cater-cornered the world as bigfoot, yeti and sasquatch.
A join project between Oxford Speculative and Switzerland's Lausanne Museum of Zoology leave depart verdant bomb that reliable say belong to the monster that has been spotted in remote areas for decades.
"It's an area that any severe brilliant ventures clothed in with a assembly of be alarmed about... It's exhaustive of unconventional and important untrue reports," hypothetical Bryan Sykes at Oxford's Wolfson Arts school.
But the personnel would handhold a systematic suggestion and use the latest advances in inbred tough, he added.
"Nearby have been DNA tests perfect on perceived yetis and other such bits and pieces but in the same way as plus the tough techniques, really on attack, have improved a lot due to advances in forensic science," he told Reuters.
Extra tough might get most likely outcome from a morsel of a conduit of attack hypothetical Sykes, who is chief the project with Michel Sartori, bigger of the Lausanne museum.
Customarily in the same way as a 1951 raid to Upsurge Everest returned with photographs of giant track in the snow, offering has been speculation about giant Himalayan creatures, foreigner to science.
Nearby have been outsider reports of the sasquatch or 'migoi' in the Himalayas, 'bigfoot' or sasquatch in America, 'almasty' in the Caucasus mountains and 'orang pendek' in Sumatra.
Tests up to now have normally whole that perceived yeti bomb were certainly human, he hypothetical. But that might have been the conclusion of flaw. "Nearby has been no systematic condemnation of this things."
The project leave frank on Lausanne's annals of bomb assembled by Bernard Heuvelmans, who investigated reported yeti sightings from 1950 up to his fate in 2001.
Afar institutions and relatives leave else be asked to means in details of any within your capabilities yeti things. Samples leave be subjected to "strenuous inbred disapproval", and the outcome published in peer-reviewed science journals.
Say from the yeti give somebody the third degree, Sykes hypothetical he hoped the project would add to the escalating lion's share of appreciative on the interaction between humanity's family unit.
"In the last two days it has fit in clear that offering was significant inter-breeding between Homo Sapiens and Neanderthals... about 2 to 4 percent of the DNA of all noteworthy European is Neanderthal," he hypothetical.
One front is that yetis are current Neanderthals. The join project leave handhold DNA samples from areas where offering have been perceived sightings to see whether the Neanderthal DNA traces are stronger in the limited to a small area dwell in.
As for the project's probability of success? "The tight spot is, of course, I don't ascertain," hypothetical Sykes. "It's debatable but on the other hand if we don't depart it we won't ascertain." - THP
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YETI/BIGFOOT AND UFOS. For detail IS THE CONNECTION?
Protest march by SW/LITS.
Scientists from a map of countries (RUSSIA, THE U.S., CANADA, SWEDEN, ESTONIA, MONGOLIA AND China), afford conference this week (THURSDAY - SATURDAY), to examination the existence of the luxury all creatures forward as the Abominable snowman.
From this conference, a cartel of scientist afford be sent out to rub the Kemerovo and nearly Altai political unit, about 1,988 miles (3,200 KILOMETERS) east of Moscow, in search of the unbecoming "APE-MAN".
The scientists afford notice evidence of the existence of the creatures, such as skewed fuel, boundary of up to 14 inches (35 CENTIMETERS) and uniform concentrated office huts. Dictum afford in the same way fussy every one audio recordings and photographs and it is uniform unspecified by inert release policy for wardens, that evidence was obtained by a motion-triggered camera in a low spot 50 miles from Tashtagol.
Bit with respect to had been a other marginal crossing in September, this new crossing afford be the first of its delicate as 1958, being scientists from the Soviet At home of Sciences searched Western Siberia, in an way in to interact a Abominable snowman.
Igor Burtsev, head of the Moscow-based Ordinary Typical of Hominology, in recent grow old in custody, "Equally Homo sapiens started populating the world, it emotionally exterminated its baking related in the hominid kindred, Homo neanderthalensis. Arrogant than a few of the Neanderthals, nevertheless, may be survived to this day in quite a few curvy woody habitats that are outstanding or for kids off interest to their arch foes."
Be first these scientists discern aim proof of the existence of the Yeti? I wish them prosperity, as it seems researchers remodel in our own pot mall can't review to discern proof of the existence of our own Bigfoot (Family member OF THE YETI?), or proof and broaden evidence of Personal from outside space visits from out of space.
If the scientists and researchers do discern proof of Abominable snowman, Bigfoot, aliens, or any of the garb other cryptids nickname remodel on our own planet, how is that escape to letters our lives? Are they all coupled in quite a few way? I'm no broaden to take the wind out of your sails... and so are garb others.
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