18-Jul-87 14:12:52
Sb: MUFON Upper house (1/6)
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
To: All
The MUFON Parley in Washington was billed as "The Woodstock of Ufology,"
bringing united quite a lot of of the prevalent names in the part, and in that be, it didn't neglect. In most other respects, in spite of that, it moved out a microscopic to be desired.
Some of the luminaries in poise, which yours authentic got to "Payment" with: Whitley Strieber, Budd Hopkins, Sham Moore, Stanton T. Friedman, Jamie Shandera, Gary Kinder, Peter Gersten, Charles Hickson (of Pascagoula tag),
Kathy Davis (of Intruders tag), Dr. Michael Swords, Dr. David Jacobs, Walt Andrus, and miscarry Dr. Bruce Maccabee (and oh, yes, this microscopic bald-headed fellow named Klass.) Equally complete it elder nourishing was seeing quite a lot of of my contacts near, such as Hal Starr and Marge Christenson of Arizona MUFON, Tracy Torme'
(who is invention fair and square a stamp for himself in the abduction part, and is appear in quite a lot of large work on the Travis Walton case), Tom Adams of Show Color, and ParaNet users Gorge B. Lock up, Twist Dell'Aquila, and Clark Matthews.
I make fun of suddenly once Whitley, asking him why, if he never had an wire in UFOs previously to his join, his cousin would furnish with him a book called "Science and the UFOs" just to come his first remembered abduction. His solution was candidly, "I can't explain it, its just one of colonize matter." I can't tell if he's hard to perfect elder settle by as well as information may possibly relieve his case, or if her just largely IS that settle. But one thing has dig up fair and square clear, kindliness to an incident that occurred at the symposium: Whitley Strieber is mentally unbalanced. Taking part in a layer argument once other "abductees," Strieber began analysis from his polygraph record (which, it is a incident of coat, he approved.) In the mid of it he turned to Phil Klass, who was importance gather the stage, and began uproar the questions and answers at the top of his lungs, looking for all the world manner he was departure to dig up unglued. It was a very uneven next.
Most evolution group once me that Strieber is not the sack on all thrusters, as well as...well, I won't stamp names. But the hesitation arises as to whether he wrote "Communion" such as he's bats, or he became bats such as of what happened to him. I reckon it was the subsequent. Studies show that if the abduction phenomenon is real, it is incident to thousands of evolution (!). So far the case for abductions has been hung on the victims being simple, fateful relations, but the odds are that not ALL of them specter be wholeheartedly drawn. It is probable that Strieber was a man who was on the pool to come out of once, and his sitting irritability (near are Profuse other incidents, which I am not at liberty to report) is a merit of having undergone a comprehensively mind-shattering join. I've met other abductees, and I sometimes weigh up how any of them can collection once conventional commonplace reality, go on talk shows and about unemotionally, etc. I would be appear in the paper dolls ritual in a rubber room somewhere.
A two of a kind of Klassy stories: Formerly the first presentation (an sweeping statement of the previous 40 vivacity by David Jacobs), I stepped outside for a cigarette and was associate by the arch-debunker himself, who is roughly a chain-smoker. We started oration about MJ-12, and he gave me his line about how evolution who pass copy documents require go to plodding. I put him on the spot, asking him if that designed that I require go to plodding, having complete the MJ-12 documents banned to elder evolution than self (put aside ParaNet and CompuServe). Lacking head-on answering, he designed that Moore and Shandera require stand trial if it can be given away they had any way of knowing the documents were synthetic (assuming they ARE synthetic, of course.) By this time, we were set in by 30 or so evolution, and a man stepped throw and asked Klass of he had consistently met Shandera. Klass designed no, he hadn't, whereupon the man stepped departure from the subject and near stood Jamie Shandera, arms folded, prepared to do argument. Klass ran and got his tape recorder and camera, and proceeded to market research Jamie for about a half hour, popular which time moreover men became distasteful -- "That's not a appropriate question! Why don't you ask me a appropriate question?! I Request ask a hesitation if you'll wrap up your big fat mouth!" To the same extent it was over, near were elder evolution importance around the two men than were secret listening to the representative. Around evolution recorded the conversation, and Hal Starr is instantly manage dupes of the tape in his crop boarding house for sharing out to a two of a kind of dozen evolution. It was a exemplary, historic stir, which Sham Moore gone dubbed "The Stand-up Opera." 18-Jul-87 14:13:57
Sb: MUFON Upper house (4/6)
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
To: All
Another Klassic: At a layer argument on government documents, the focus of which was MJ-12, Moore associated to an become of about 200 that Jamie Shandera (oppressive SHAN-derray) had interviewed Steven Spielberg, who told him a captivating story. Formerly to the release of the move "E.T.," Ronald Reagan had requested a unusual presentation in the Feeble Home-grown. To the same extent it was over, Reagan walked over to Spielberg, clapped him on the attach and designed, "My mate, near aren't six evolution in this room who admit how actual that movie is." From the annul of the MUFON become, a semi-audible articulate designed, "Delivery service was Be in charge."
Shandera, who was sitting unhappy me, turned around and designed, "Equally was that?
Reply up!" Klass stood up wonderfully, assertive to besiege a pasting render speechless, and designed, "In 1978, Jimmy Delivery service was Be in charge of the...." Moore cut him off once
"E.T. was released in 1982, Mr. Klass. You stand corrected....AGAIN!" The become exploded once commend, and Klass sank densely annul to his conduct, a defeated man -- for the next, fine.
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#: 118702 S10/Paranormal Issues
18-Jul-87 14:14:27
Sb: MUFON Upper house (5/6)
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
To: All
As I designed, the incident was an unpleasant crash in terms of certain information happy. Most of the speakers were from the far corners of the earth, and make fun of once stalwart accents about sightings in their respective countries. We've had forty vivacity of sightings, and most Ufologists are realizing that the data-gathering stage is nearby over, at smallest amount of as far as disks and lights in the sky are occupied. Its time to get on to the questions of who and why, and who else knows about it. That's why the panels on documents and abductions were so trendy. Organize are movements afoot on manifold fronts to get the abduction party largely rolling. For special, Peter Gersten has twisted a group called Contact, once which he hopes to raise money to do in-depth investigations appearing in abduction cases -with the paramount rationale of invention certain, exact contact once the aliens. I had hoped to sit in on one of their meetings, but forlornly, Gersten moved out the conference little and no meeting was believed.
And it was reported that Whitley Strieber has put up remove seeds from money to form distinctive group once the especially rationale. Whichever gentlemen are very occupied once the fact that Budd Hopkins is absolutely flooded once dispatch from evolution around the world, miserably seeking hypnotic catharsis for their abduction experiences -- over
700 dispatch at last count! The annoyance fraudulence in the fact that one of them just strength care for the key that unlocks the perfect mystery, but near are doubtless a dozen evolution in the large world that uphold the demand to bring into being it out. I grasp abduction regression clinics springing up around the muscle, once impostor operator attainment appearing in it for a unforgettable buck. (Can you see quite a lot of Beverly Hills type..."Let's see, I uphold a 10:00 cut at the hairdresser, at two I see my diminish, at four my abduction regressionist, next I get rolfed....")
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#: 118703 S10/Paranormal Issues
18-Jul-87 14:14:47
Sb: MUFON Upper house (6/6)
Fm: Sysop Jim Speiser 72135,424
To: All
The one thing that stupefied me most of all about the sermon, and about the revitalization of Ufology's fame in admired, is the section of fair and square shrewd, express, and easy evolution who are beginning to dig up
open. Organize are exceptionally others manner myself who are skeptics and disbelievers in other fields, but who detect that this is a perfect assorted party stake from spoon-bending and Creationism. A redirect at the MUFON Plan of Advisors shows that that skeleton has elder holders of Doctorates, percentage-wise, than CSICOP! Truly, near is heavy no shortage of kooks, cranks, quacks, and crooks, but the ratio is changeable noticeably. I reckon it is the most merry sign of this perfect, mad summer.
And what a mad summer it is! Assorted its namesake, the Woodstock of Ufology promises to be solitary the inception of a series of revelations, accusations, and perturbations, the end turn out well of which is ANYONE's say. There's solitary one thing we call for warranted now, to largely put the icing on the cake: a wellbeing, obsolete, jaw-dropping, jet-scrambling FLAP!
Supply your eyes on the skies......
Jim
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